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Mar 16Liked by Mariann Sullivan

dear jasmin and mariann,

thank you for this!

i like this a lot: "The really good news here is that, to the extent that social pressures matter, and that is likely a lot, the more people who change, the more other people will change."

the whole piece is great! thank you for sharing it!

love,

myq

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Lately, what has been bothering me more than people who know they shouldn't eat animals or animal products are the people who are activly advocating for eating amonals because they think it's beneficial for the planet, their health and EVEN the animals! A few months ago, I was checking out at the grocery store and the human I'm front of me commented to the cashier that meat was so expensive. The cashier said something like "for what those animals go through, it should probably cost more." I hadn't said a word. I do know this cashier and they were not vegan to the best of my knowledge. We had chatted ever since the pandemic. The person buying the meat questioned "do they really suffer though? I would have to talk to some farm animals," in a joking way, so I said "well, I think of you asked them if they wanted to die, they'd say no." That's a weak example, but that person really didn't think they suffered. About a year ago, I did a vedge pledge at work and did a presentation on the environmental, social and health impacts of food choices where I talked about the correlation between negative impacts on human health and the environment of animal products to which I got questions and emails sending me studies funded by the meat industry about the positive health and environmental impacts of meat, specifically beef. I pointed out the flaws of the study like a true avid listener of Dr. Gregor and got silence in return. Some people really believe that animals don't suffer and meat is good for them and the planet. Thats what I don't know what to do about.

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